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Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

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REBECCA FREDERICK
Fri, Aug 25, 2023 2:35 PM

Sam,
I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.)
Let me know if you want pictures.
Rebecca Frederick
Kismet 32-267 2006

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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400
From: "Sam Colllins" scollins606@comcast.net
Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain
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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a
question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley
where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider
a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

scollins606@comcast.net mailto:scollins606@comcast.net

Sam, I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.) Let me know if you want pictures. Rebecca Frederick Kismet 32-267 2006 Sent from my iPad > On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org wrote: > > Send Sentoa mailing list submissions to > sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Sentoa digest..." > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400 > From: "Sam Colllins" <scollins606@comcast.net> > Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > Message-ID: <006b01d9d698$0dc15f50$29441df0$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01D9D676.86AFBF50" > > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a > question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley > where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider > a separate bilge pump in the engine room? > > Thanks in advance- > > > > Sam Collins > > Tug A Long > > NT32FB-95 > > Solomons, MD > > scollins606@comcast.net <mailto:scollins606@comcast.net> > > > > > >
BD
Brian Dodsworth
Fri, Aug 25, 2023 5:10 PM

A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine.
Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise. The raw water pump was leaking via the seal. (Like "Red Green") I was able to
fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump.

So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great. In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor
and place it in the shaft alley. This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area.

Brian Dodsworth
Tanguer 32-100, 1997

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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

Sam,
I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.)
Let me know if you want pictures.
Rebecca Frederick
Kismet 32-267 2006

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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400
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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a
question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley
where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider
a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

scollins606@comcast.net mailto:scollins606@comcast.net

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I once owned a 32’NT and a 37’NT and in both cases, the engine room bilge is/was isolated from the shaft alley bilge by a ridge in the bilge deck about 4” tall. I think this is to prevent oil and diesel fuel that might be under the engine from contaminating the shaft alley bilge water and then being pumped overboard. For both boats the engine room bilge was always completely dry and the shaft alley bilge was frequently wet. The water heater over-temp/pressure hose and at least one air conditioner condensate hose emptied into the shaft alley bilge. To keep this area dry, I routed these hoses into a Tupperware container and then periodically emptied the container.

Carey Cook 32-138 LeeLoo (1999)37-122 Tug LeeLoo (2005)

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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

scollins606@comcast.net


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A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine. Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise. The raw water pump was leaking via the seal. (Like "Red Green") I was able to fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump. So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great. In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor and place it in the shaft alley. This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area. Brian Dodsworth Tanguer 32-100, 1997 From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> Cc: "REBECCA FREDERICK" <rfdinesen@aol.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Sam, I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.) Let me know if you want pictures. Rebecca Frederick Kismet 32-267 2006 Sent from my iPad > On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org wrote: > > Send Sentoa mailing list submissions to > sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Sentoa digest..." > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400 > From: "Sam Colllins" <scollins606@comcast.net> > Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > Message-ID: <006b01d9d698$0dc15f50$29441df0$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01D9D676.86AFBF50" > > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a > question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley > where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider > a separate bilge pump in the engine room? > > Thanks in advance- > > > > Sam Collins > > Tug A Long > > NT32FB-95 > > Solomons, MD > > scollins606@comcast.net <mailto:scollins606@comcast.net> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 2374 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:23:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: "careycook@aol.com" <careycook@aol.com> > Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: <scollins606@comcast.net>, "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' > Association (SENTOA)" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > Message-ID: <593956741.2311467.1692890629091@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_Part_2311466_675423129.1692890629090" > > I once owned a 32’NT and a 37’NT and in both cases, the engine room bilge is/was isolated from the shaft alley bilge by a ridge in the bilge deck about 4” tall. I think this is to prevent oil and diesel fuel that might be under the engine from contaminating the shaft alley bilge water and then being pumped overboard. For both boats the engine room bilge was always completely dry and the shaft alley bilge was frequently wet. The water heater over-temp/pressure hose and at least one air conditioner condensate hose emptied into the shaft alley bilge. To keep this area dry, I routed these hoses into a Tupperware container and then periodically emptied the container. > > Carey Cook 32-138 LeeLoo (1999)37-122 Tug LeeLoo (2005) > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023, 7:34 AM, Sam Colllins via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: > > <!--#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 p.yiv9726482139MsoNormal, #yiv9726482139 li.yiv9726482139MsoNormal, #yiv9726482139 div.yiv9726482139MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9726482139 a:link, #yiv9726482139 span.yiv9726482139MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9726482139 span.yiv9726482139EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9726482139 .yiv9726482139MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 div.yiv9726482139WordSection1 {}--> > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider a separate bilge pump in the engine room? > > Thanks in advance- > > > > Sam Collins > > Tug A Long > > NT32FB-95 > > Solomons, MD > > scollins606@comcast.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 3673 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 14:25:04 -0400 > From: Dean Raffaelli <deanraf@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Weaver dinghy davits > To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)" > <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > Message-ID: <7362E87D-8E3B-4CD8-879B-725F427D7DE8@sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary=Apple-Mail-7A064AF5-BE2B-46E9-B9DF-E1BCF88A72D7 > > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 7424 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Sentoa Digest, Vol 147, Issue 10 > *************************************** _______________________________________________ Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org
JH
John Harcharik
Fri, Aug 25, 2023 11:47 PM

Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use?

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa <
sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:

A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and
placed the sensor under the engine.
Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise.  The raw water
pump was leaking via the seal.  (Like "Red Green")  I was able to
fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket
which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump.

So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great.  In reading the many
replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor
and place it in the shaft alley.  This would warn of a shaft seal failure
with subsequent leaks into that area.

Brian Dodsworth
Tanguer 32-100, 1997


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*Subject: *[Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

Sam,
I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard.
My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room
and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I
have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional
high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It
was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential
leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and
hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.)
Let me know if you want pictures.
Rebecca Frederick
Kismet 32-267 2006

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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400
From: "Sam Colllins" scollins606@comcast.net
Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain
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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a
question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley
where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to

consider

a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

scollins606@comcast.net mailto:scollins606@comcast.net

Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use? On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa < sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: > A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and > placed the sensor under the engine. > Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise. The raw water > pump was leaking via the seal. (Like "Red Green") I was able to > fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket > which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump. > > So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great. In reading the many > replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor > and place it in the shaft alley. This would warn of a shaft seal failure > with subsequent leaks into that area. > > Brian Dodsworth > Tanguer 32-100, 1997 > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < > sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > *To: *"South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < > sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > *Cc: *"REBECCA FREDERICK" <rfdinesen@aol.com> > *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM > *Subject: *[Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) > > Sam, > I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. > My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room > and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I > have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional > high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It > was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential > leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and > hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.) > Let me know if you want pictures. > Rebecca Frederick > Kismet 32-267 2006 > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org wrote: > > > > Send Sentoa mailing list submissions to > > sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > > body 'help' to > > sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Sentoa digest..." > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400 > > From: "Sam Colllins" <scollins606@comcast.net> > > Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > > To: <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > > Message-ID: <006b01d9d698$0dc15f50$29441df0$@comcast.net> > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01D9D676.86AFBF50" > > > > Greetings Tuggers > > > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a > > question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley > > where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to > consider > > a separate bilge pump in the engine room? > > > > Thanks in advance- > > > > > > > > Sam Collins > > > > Tug A Long > > > > NT32FB-95 > > > > Solomons, MD > > > > scollins606@comcast.net <mailto:scollins606@comcast.net> > > > > > > > > > > > >
BD
Brian Dodsworth
Sun, Aug 27, 2023 5:10 AM

From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
Cc: "John Harcharik" john@harcharik.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 4:47:51 PM
Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use?

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > wrote:

A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine.
Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise. The raw water pump was leaking via the seal. (Like "Red Green") I was able to
fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump.

So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great. In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor
and place it in the shaft alley. This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area.

Brian Dodsworth
Tanguer 32-100, 1997

From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] >
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] >
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Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM
Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

Sam,
I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.)
Let me know if you want pictures.
Rebecca Frederick
Kismet 32-267 2006

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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a
question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley
where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider
a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

[ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] <mailto: [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] >

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I once owned a 32’NT and a 37’NT and in both cases, the engine room bilge is/was isolated from the shaft alley bilge by a ridge in the bilge deck about 4” tall. I think this is to prevent oil and diesel fuel that might be under the engine from contaminating the shaft alley bilge water and then being pumped overboard. For both boats the engine room bilge was always completely dry and the shaft alley bilge was frequently wet. The water heater over-temp/pressure hose and at least one air conditioner condensate hose emptied into the shaft alley bilge. To keep this area dry, I routed these hoses into a Tupperware container and then periodically emptied the container.

Carey Cook 32-138 LeeLoo (1999)37-122 Tug LeeLoo (2005)

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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

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From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> Cc: "John Harcharik" <john@harcharik.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 4:47:51 PM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use? On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > wrote: A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine. Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise. The raw water pump was leaking via the seal. (Like "Red Green") I was able to fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump. So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great. In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor and place it in the shaft alley. This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area. Brian Dodsworth Tanguer 32-100, 1997 From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > Cc: "REBECCA FREDERICK" < [ mailto:rfdinesen@aol.com | rfdinesen@aol.com ] > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Sam, I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.) Let me know if you want pictures. Rebecca Frederick Kismet 32-267 2006 Sent from my iPad > On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, [ mailto:sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org ] wrote: > > Send Sentoa mailing list submissions to > [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > [ mailto:sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org ] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [ mailto:sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org ] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Sentoa digest..." > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400 > From: "Sam Colllins" < [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] > > Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > > Message-ID: <006b01d9d698$0dc15f50$29441df0$@ [ http://comcast.net/ | comcast.net ] > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01D9D676.86AFBF50" > > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a > question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley > where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider > a separate bilge pump in the engine room? > > Thanks in advance- > > > > Sam Collins > > Tug A Long > > NT32FB-95 > > Solomons, MD > > [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] <mailto: [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 2374 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:23:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: " [ mailto:careycook@aol.com | careycook@aol.com ] " < [ mailto:careycook@aol.com | careycook@aol.com ] > > Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: < [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] >, "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' > Association (SENTOA)" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > > Message-ID: < [ mailto:593956741.2311467.1692890629091@mail.yahoo.com | 593956741.2311467.1692890629091@mail.yahoo.com ] > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_Part_2311466_675423129.1692890629090" > > I once owned a 32’NT and a 37’NT and in both cases, the engine room bilge is/was isolated from the shaft alley bilge by a ridge in the bilge deck about 4” tall. I think this is to prevent oil and diesel fuel that might be under the engine from contaminating the shaft alley bilge water and then being pumped overboard. For both boats the engine room bilge was always completely dry and the shaft alley bilge was frequently wet. The water heater over-temp/pressure hose and at least one air conditioner condensate hose emptied into the shaft alley bilge. To keep this area dry, I routed these hoses into a Tupperware container and then periodically emptied the container. > > Carey Cook 32-138 LeeLoo (1999)37-122 Tug LeeLoo (2005) > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023, 7:34 AM, Sam Colllins via Sentoa < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > wrote: > > <!--#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 p.yiv9726482139MsoNormal, #yiv9726482139 li.yiv9726482139MsoNormal, #yiv9726482139 div.yiv9726482139MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9726482139 a:link, #yiv9726482139 span.yiv9726482139MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9726482139 span.yiv9726482139EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9726482139 .yiv9726482139MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 div.yiv9726482139WordSection1 {}--> > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. 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Brian Dodsworth
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Hello Sam.
I can't find the make of sensor. I did find that I installed it in 2015, and made a note of purchasing the sensor and horn and an of/off switch for $81, but did not save the invoice.
I suspect it came from a local electronics shop and was just a plain moisture sensor, nothing fancy but it works.
I mounted it onto a piece of plywood so it would lay face down on the floor under the engine/transmission.
I ran DC power off one of the fuse switches for the "cabin heat" blower that is turned on when the boat is running.
We were part way from Victoria, where we live and on the way to Prince Rupert (500 miles away) when the alarm went off
and I then found that the raw water pump was leaking via the seal inside it.

Brian

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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use?

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > wrote:

A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine.
Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise. The raw water pump was leaking via the seal. (Like "Red Green") I was able to
fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump.

So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great. In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor
and place it in the shaft alley. This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area.

Brian Dodsworth
Tanguer 32-100, 1997

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Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM
Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)

Sam,
I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.)
Let me know if you want pictures.
Rebecca Frederick
Kismet 32-267 2006

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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a
question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley
where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider
a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

[ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] <mailto: [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] >

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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain
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I once owned a 32’NT and a 37’NT and in both cases, the engine room bilge is/was isolated from the shaft alley bilge by a ridge in the bilge deck about 4” tall. I think this is to prevent oil and diesel fuel that might be under the engine from contaminating the shaft alley bilge water and then being pumped overboard. For both boats the engine room bilge was always completely dry and the shaft alley bilge was frequently wet. The water heater over-temp/pressure hose and at least one air conditioner condensate hose emptied into the shaft alley bilge. To keep this area dry, I routed these hoses into a Tupperware container and then periodically emptied the container.

Carey Cook 32-138 LeeLoo (1999)37-122 Tug LeeLoo (2005)

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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

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Hello Sam. I can't find the make of sensor. I did find that I installed it in 2015, and made a note of purchasing the sensor and horn and an of/off switch for $81, but did not save the invoice. I suspect it came from a local electronics shop and was just a plain moisture sensor, nothing fancy but it works. I mounted it onto a piece of plywood so it would lay face down on the floor under the engine/transmission. I ran DC power off one of the fuse switches for the "cabin heat" blower that is turned on when the boat is running. We were part way from Victoria, where we live and on the way to Prince Rupert (500 miles away) when the alarm went off and I then found that the raw water pump was leaking via the seal inside it. Brian From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> Cc: "B m- Dodsworth" <briancdodsworth@shaw.ca> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 10:10:34 PM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> Cc: "John Harcharik" <john@harcharik.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 4:47:51 PM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use? On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > wrote: A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine. Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise. The raw water pump was leaking via the seal. (Like "Red Green") I was able to fashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump. So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great. In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensor and place it in the shaft alley. This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area. Brian Dodsworth Tanguer 32-100, 1997 From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > Cc: "REBECCA FREDERICK" < [ mailto:rfdinesen@aol.com | rfdinesen@aol.com ] > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Sam, I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.) Let me know if you want pictures. Rebecca Frederick Kismet 32-267 2006 Sent from my iPad > On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, [ mailto:sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org ] wrote: > > Send Sentoa mailing list submissions to > [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > [ mailto:sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org ] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [ mailto:sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org ] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Sentoa digest..." > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400 > From: "Sam Colllins" < [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] > > Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > > Message-ID: <006b01d9d698$0dc15f50$29441df0$@ [ http://comcast.net/ | comcast.net ] > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01D9D676.86AFBF50" > > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a > question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley > where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider > a separate bilge pump in the engine room? > > Thanks in advance- > > > > Sam Collins > > Tug A Long > > NT32FB-95 > > Solomons, MD > > [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] <mailto: [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A message part incompatible with plain text digests has been removed ... > Name: not available > Type: text/html > Size: 2374 bytes > Desc: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:23:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: " [ mailto:careycook@aol.com | careycook@aol.com ] " < [ mailto:careycook@aol.com | careycook@aol.com ] > > Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: < [ mailto:scollins606@comcast.net | scollins606@comcast.net ] >, "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' > Association (SENTOA)" < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > > Message-ID: < [ mailto:593956741.2311467.1692890629091@mail.yahoo.com | 593956741.2311467.1692890629091@mail.yahoo.com ] > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_Part_2311466_675423129.1692890629090" > > I once owned a 32’NT and a 37’NT and in both cases, the engine room bilge is/was isolated from the shaft alley bilge by a ridge in the bilge deck about 4” tall. I think this is to prevent oil and diesel fuel that might be under the engine from contaminating the shaft alley bilge water and then being pumped overboard. For both boats the engine room bilge was always completely dry and the shaft alley bilge was frequently wet. The water heater over-temp/pressure hose and at least one air conditioner condensate hose emptied into the shaft alley bilge. To keep this area dry, I routed these hoses into a Tupperware container and then periodically emptied the container. > > Carey Cook 32-138 LeeLoo (1999)37-122 Tug LeeLoo (2005) > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Thursday, August 24, 2023, 7:34 AM, Sam Colllins via Sentoa < [ mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org | sentoa@lists.sentoa.org ] > wrote: > > <!--#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 p.yiv9726482139MsoNormal, #yiv9726482139 li.yiv9726482139MsoNormal, #yiv9726482139 div.yiv9726482139MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9726482139 a:link, #yiv9726482139 span.yiv9726482139MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9726482139 span.yiv9726482139EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9726482139 .yiv9726482139MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9726482139 filtered {}#yiv9726482139 div.yiv9726482139WordSection1 {}--> > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. 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on my 1989 32 -36, i got a small water pump and placed it in the section under the engine? transmission with an exhaust hose from the pump into the larger sump area under the main area 
by the way ,30 plus years later never had a breakdown or mayor issue and montjly summer trips to Bimono and Bahamas and the keysfernando fernandez 
In a message dated 8/27/2023 1:10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sentoa@lists.sentoa.org writes: 
  From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
Cc: "John Harcharik" john@harcharik.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 4:47:51 PM
Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use?
On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:
A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine.Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise.  The raw water pump was leaking via the seal.  (Like "Red Green")  I was able tofashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump.
So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great.  In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensorand place it in the shaft alley.  This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area.
Brian Dodsworth Tanguer 32-100, 1997
From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
Cc: "REBECCA FREDERICK" rfdinesen@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM
Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins)
Sam,
I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.)
Let me know if you want pictures.
Rebecca Frederick
Kismet 32-267 2006

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Greetings Tuggers

I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a
question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley
where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider
a separate bilge pump in the engine room?

Thanks in advance-

Sam Collins

Tug A Long

NT32FB-95

Solomons, MD

scollins606@comcast.net mailto:scollins606@comcast.net

on my 1989 32 -36, i got a small water pump and placed it in the section under the engine? transmission with an exhaust hose from the pump into the larger sump area under the main area  by the way ,30 plus years later never had a breakdown or mayor issue and montjly summer trips to Bimono and Bahamas and the keysfernando fernandez  In a message dated 8/27/2023 1:10:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sentoa@lists.sentoa.org writes:    From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> Cc: "John Harcharik" <john@harcharik.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 4:47:51 PM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Brain, what kind of water sensor/alarm did you use? On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:11 AM Brian Dodsworth via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: A number of years ago I purchased a moisture sensor and an alarm horn and placed the sensor under the engine.Well, that summer the alarm went off, much to my surprise.  The raw water pump was leaking via the seal.  (Like "Red Green")  I was able tofashion a duck tape funnel under the pump and a hose drain into a bucket which I drained overboard until we could get a replacement pump. So, adding a water sensor and alarm horn was great.  In reading the many replies to Sam's question I now wonder why I didn't parallel a second sensorand place it in the shaft alley.  This would warn of a shaft seal failure with subsequent leaks into that area. Brian Dodsworth Tanguer 32-100, 1997 From: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association, SENTOA" <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> Cc: "REBECCA FREDERICK" <rfdinesen@aol.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 7:35:53 AM Subject: [Sentoa] Re: NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain (Sam Colllins) Sam, I concur with Carey’s assessment although my AC lines are all overboard. My shaft alley is almost always dry. Yes, the ridge between the engine room and the shaft alley is to catch any offending liquids other than water. I have not added a bilge pump in the engine room but I did add an additional high water bilge pump in the shaft alley with its own hose overboard. It was purely precaution as that area seemed to be covering a lot of potential leakage area on the boat (all of the engine, maybe fresh water tank and hoses, some raw water, and shaft seal.) Let me know if you want pictures. Rebecca Frederick Kismet 32-267 2006 Sent from my iPad > On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org wrote: > > Send Sentoa mailing list submissions to >    sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to >    sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >    sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Sentoa digest..." > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:34:11 -0400 > From: "Sam Colllins" <scollins606@comcast.net> > Subject: [Sentoa] NT 32 Engine Room Bilge Drain > To: <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> > Message-ID: <006b01d9d698$0dc15f50$29441df0$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01D9D676.86AFBF50" > > Greetings Tuggers > > I have NT32FB-95 of 1997 vintage. I am away from the dock and have a > question on how the engine room bilge communicates with the shaft alley > where the bilge pumps are located. Additionally is there a need to consider > a separate bilge pump in the engine room? > > Thanks in advance- > > > > Sam Collins > > Tug A Long > > NT32FB-95 > > Solomons, MD > > scollins606@comcast.net <mailto:scollins606@comcast.net> > > > > > >