Re: Sentoa Digest, Vol 168, Issue 3
-Starboard listing
NT 32 / 2000-
I had to remove the generator,which made for a rather visible starboard
listing.
Since we rearly used the generator I have no immediate plans of replacing
it. Any ideas for the tilt listing ? - 300 pounds of sand bags ??
Philip Syrrist
Westport Ct
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From: Rio DeGennaro riodeg22@gmail.com
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Two separate topics... of course!
The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.
I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not
the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a
double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double
is fixed.
Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a
storage cabinet.
I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build
request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower
stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of
centerline.
Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
Rio DeGennaro
M/V Ti Amo
37197
Hello Philip,
I had a similar issue with my NT 37 when I switched from lead acid batteries for the house bank to LFP.
I have a collection of lead ingots in canvas bags that had to be shifted from the STB lazarette to the Port side to getting the boat back to a level state.
I suspect these are not cheap but they do the trick very well.
-Evan
NT 37-148
TUGAWAY
Victoria, BC
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-Starboard listing
NT 32 / 2000-
I had to remove the generator,which made for a rather visible starboard listing.
Since we rearly used the generator I have no immediate plans of replacing it. Any ideas for the tilt listing ? - 300 pounds of sand bags ??
Philip Syrrist
Westport Ct
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Two separate topics... of course!
The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.
I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double is fixed.
Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a storage cabinet.
I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of centerline.
Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
Rio DeGennaro
M/V Ti Amo
37197
My NT 32-251 (2005) was factory built without a generator. It came from the factory with sand filled bags (3, maybe 4) on the port side in the lazarette.
~Tom Patterson
NT32-251
PACIFIC LOON
Pt. Richmond, CA
On Jun 2, 2025, at 08:48, Philip Syrrist via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
-Starboard listing
NT 32 / 2000-
I had to remove the generator,which made for a rather visible starboard listing.
Since we rearly used the generator I have no immediate plans of replacing it. Any ideas for the tilt listing ? - 300 pounds of sand bags ??
Philip Syrrist
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The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double is fixed.
Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a storage cabinet.I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of centerline.
Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
Rio DeGennaro
M/V Ti Amo
37197
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boundary="Apple-Mail=_9FB52AE5-79B1-4EFE-93DC-DF91B1EAE2C5"Hey Rio—
We had all interior upholstery done last year, so I can help with this.Captain’s seat—as you said, you use the slider lock to move it all the way forward. Then use the slider lock to let it slide off even further forward. Careful—it’s very heavy and also greasy on the bottom. From there, you can disassemble it easily. Side note—if you remove the foot rest first, it lessens weight just a bit.
Passenger seat—the back is removed with screws that are hidden in the magazine rack that faces aft. Once that’s gone—you’ll have screws into the base cushion from below. Some of those are in the locker that is below the passenger seat (outboard), and the inboard ones are accessed behind the AC power panel. So loosen/remove the four screws on the AC panel (not a bad idea to disconnect AC power first—but still don’t touch anything in case you have an inverter etc. still giving you juice in there) and then remove the 2-3 screws that point upwards into the base of the passenger base cushion.
Shower pump—ours is the “Whale Gulper”—and it’s mounted in a bilge that is accessed via a hatch next to the bathroom door in the hallway there. I’m 6’1” and I can get into that bilge completely to work on that pump. It is mounted to the aft end of the bilge on the vertical wall there. It’s basically on the opposite side of the wall from the step you use into the engine room. Definitely have an assistant to pass tools as needed, and to call 911 when you can’t get back out, haha.
Hope this helps,
b> On Jun 2, 2025, at 08:28, Rio DeGennaro via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
>
> Two separate topics... of course!
> The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.
>
> I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double is fixed.
> Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a storage cabinet.
>
> I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of centerline.
>
> Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Rio DeGennaro
> M/V Ti Amo
> 37197
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> On Jun 2, 2025, at 08:28, Rio DeGennaro via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
>
> Two separate topics... of course!
> The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.
>
> I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double is fixed.
> Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a storage cabinet.
>
> I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of centerline.
>
> Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Rio DeGennaro
> M/V Ti Amo
> 37197
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NT 37-100
We listed to starboard initially as well. Put in lead bars outboard of the generator and slight forward of that. Also moved the big start battery to the port side.
David Cheyette
Maisy
Friday Harbor, WA
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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Sentoa Digest, Vol 168, Issue 3
-Starboard listing
NT 32 / 2000-
I had to remove the generator,which made for a rather visible starboard listing.
Since we rearly used the generator I have no immediate plans of replacing it. Any ideas for the tilt listing ? - 300 pounds of sand bags ??
Philip Syrrist
Westport Ct
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Two separate topics... of course!
The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.
I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double is fixed.
Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a storage cabinet.
I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of centerline.
Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
Rio DeGennaro
M/V Ti Amo
37197
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Hey Rio—
We had all interior upholstery done last year, so I can help with this.
Captain’s seat—as you said, you use the slider lock to move it all the way forward. Then use the slider lock to let it slide off even further forward. Careful—it’s very heavy and also greasy on the bottom. From there, you can disassemble it easily. Side note—if you remove the foot rest first, it lessens weight just a bit.
Passenger seat—the back is removed with screws that are hidden in the magazine rack that faces aft. Once that’s gone—you’ll have screws into the base cushion from below. Some of those are in the locker that is below the passenger seat (outboard), and the inboard ones are accessed behind the AC power panel. So loosen/remove the four screws on the AC panel (not a bad idea to disconnect AC power first—but still don’t touch anything in case you have an inverter etc. still giving you juice in there) and then remove the 2-3 screws that point upwards into the base of the passenger base cushion.
Shower pump—ours is the “Whale Gulper”—and it’s mounted in a bilge that is accessed via a hatch next to the bathroom door in the hallway there. I’m 6’1” and I can get into that bilge completely to work on that pump. It is mounted to the aft end of the bilge on the vertical wall there. It’s basically on the opposite side of the wall from the step you use into the engine room. Definitely have an assistant to pass tools as needed, and to call 911 when you can’t get back out, haha.
Hope this helps,
b
On Jun 2, 2025, at 08:28, Rio DeGennaro via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.orgmailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Two separate topics... of course!
The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.
I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double is fixed.
Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a storage cabinet.
I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of centerline.
Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
Rio DeGennaro
M/V Ti Amo
37197
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P.S. Unless your boat is really unusual—under the port seat is the AC panel, not the DC one. Which matters because it can kill you, where the DC is less likely to. :)
On Jun 2, 2025, at 08:28, Rio DeGennaro via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.orgmailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Two separate topics... of course!
The boat... 2008 NT37 custom built.
I am planning to get the 2 lower helm seats re-upholstered but have not the slightest idea of how to remove the seats! The captain's seat is a double on a fore and aft adjustable slide and the port seat, also a double is fixed.
Directly under the port seat is an a/c unit , the dc breaker panel, and a storage cabinet.
I have not found the access to the shower sump! Part of the custom build request from the original owner was to increase the size of the shower stall. the steps down to the berth and head is offset to port of centerline.
Any help with these two issues will be greatly appreciated!
Rio DeGennaro
M/V Ti Amo
37197
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