Re: Fuel tank clean out port
I can confirm 32-057 did not have a dip tube feed, but fed the Racor filter and then the engine filter via a bottom draw from the tank. The draw was about 2" above the bottom of a small sump at the center of the bottom edge of the tank.Charlie Billings ex-owner 32-057 & 26-001Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org Date: 6/20/22 11:07 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)" sentoa@lists.sentoa.org Cc: Harry Hungate wcx7106@gmail.com Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Fuel tank clean out port Hi, Carmine, and thanks for the clarification. I confirm that our NT-32 also has top withdrawal via a dip tube.I have found two sources of diesel tank inspection ports on the internet. Now I need to find some competent person to cut the hole. This will probably at haulout and winter storage this fall.Harry Hungate> On Jun 20, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Carmine Petracca via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:> > I would like to add a clarification to an earlier post where the poster said that fuel is drawn off the bottom of NT tanks. That is true for the 37, but not for the 32. In the 32 the fuel is drawn from a standpipe on the top of the tank, which allows sludge and debris to possibly build up on the tank’s bottom. As another poster mentioned it is a good idea to look inside the tank to rule out any problems.> > Carmine Petracca> Sleepless, NT 32-86> Anacortes, WA > >> On Jun 20, 2022, at 7:20 AM, David Owen via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>> >> >> I would love to see the photo of the inspection port, but if it's a hassle maybe I will just come by and duck into your lalzarette.>> >> I have been stuck wallowing at sea (on a sailboat) with gunky fuel more than once and ended up just replacing the tank (18 gallons and very old.)>> >> David>> >> David Wilkie Owen>> Nordic Tug 32+ “WILSON”>> dwowen@cox.net>> Santa Barbara, CA>> >> >> >> -----Original Message----->> From: Robert Claycomb via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org >> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 7:34 PM>> To: sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>> Cc: Robert Claycomb robclay93103@cox.net>> Subject: [Sentoa] Fuel tank clean out port >> >> Fuel tank clean out port.>> >> I bought my NT 32 about ten years ago. The previous owner did not put many hours on boat and I was concerned about the large amount of diesel fuel just sitting in the tank.>> >> I hired a San Francisco based company, to polish the fuel and clean out my new to me NT-32s fuel tank. The company installed a six inch SS diameter port on the back wall of the fuel tank just below the aft deck hatch entrance. >> >> I still think, even though I have not had the tank cleaned since, that’s it was money well spent. I now have easy access to the fuel tanks inner workings. >> >> Actually, however, my fuel tanks cleaning/internal inspection is on 2022 to do work list.>> >> I have a photo of the SS accessport, if anyone is interested >> >> Robert Claycomb>> Deneige>> 32-276>> Santa Barbara>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 7:08 PM, sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>> >>> Send Sentoa mailing list submissions to>>> sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or >>> body 'help' to>>> sentoa-request@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at>>> sentoa-owner@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Sentoa digest...">>> >>> Today's Topics:>>> >>> 1. Re: Fuel tank cleanout? (Carmine Petracca)>>> 2. Re: Fuel tank cleanout? (Harry Hungate)>>> 3. Reply Re: Fuel tank cleanout? (Sam Collins)>>> 4. Re: Reply Re: Fuel tank cleanout? (stephen.h.hill@gmail.com)>>> 5. Re: Reply Re: Fuel tank cleanout? (Paul Bulk)>>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------->>> >>> Message: 1>>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 14:55:33 -0700>>> From: Carmine Petracca petracca@lewiston.com>>> Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Fuel tank cleanout?>>> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)">>> sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>>> Message-ID: 3F633E53-62BC-4D27-8F4F-1D97C20FD46E@lewiston.com>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8>>> >>> Hi Harry,>>> >>> I hired a local company, which came highly recommended, to clean my 200gal. tank. After pumping the tank dry they cut an elongated hole in the rear of the tank and proceeded to vacuum it out. There was little debris and very little corrosion. If there had been much of either they would have cut another hole and repeated the process until they had done the whole tank. That wasn’t necessary in my case. They sealed the hole with a gasket and cover.>>> >>> I’m pretty handy and have done many projects on Sleepless including installing a new windlass, inverter, watermaker, bimini and electronics, but I think this is a job best left to someone who specializes in it. I was very glad that I had it done and felt better about knowing the condition of the tank. With the access opening already there, it would be an easier job in the future.>>> >>> Hope this helps.>>> >>> Carmine Petracca>>> Sleepless, NT 32-86>>> Anacortes, WA>>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>> >>>> Has anyone figured out a method of cleaning the water and sludge from the fuel tank on NT-32? Single 200 gallon aluminum tank.>>>> >>>> Harry Hungate>>>> Bessie NT 32-238>>>> Now in Manistique, MI>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an >>>> email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> ------------------------------>>> >>> Message: 2>>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 18:17:25 -0400>>> From: Harry Hungate wcx7106@gmail.com>>> Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Fuel tank cleanout?>>> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)">>> sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>>> Message-ID: 1EA4DF1B-7425-4B29-904D-7B4043B50C11@gmail.com>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8>>> >>> Hi, Carmine, and many, many thanks for your response. This certainly sounds like a job for someone who specializes in this work. Cutting in to a fuel tank is not something that I would willingly undertake! But, I do not have any alternate ideas.>>> >>> All the best,>>> >>> Harry Hungate>>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Carmine Petracca via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>> >>>> Hi Harry,>>>> >>>> I hired a local company, which came highly recommended, to clean my 200gal. tank. After pumping the tank dry they cut an elongated hole in the rear of the tank and proceeded to vacuum it out. There was little debris and very little corrosion. If there had been much of either they would have cut another hole and repeated the process until they had done the whole tank. That wasn’t necessary in my case. They sealed the hole with a gasket and cover.>>>> >>>> I’m pretty handy and have done many projects on Sleepless including installing a new windlass, inverter, watermaker, bimini and electronics, but I think this is a job best left to someone who specializes in it. I was very glad that I had it done and felt better about knowing the condition of the tank. With the access opening already there, it would be an easier job in the future.>>>> >>>> Hope this helps.>>>> >>>> Carmine Petracca>>>> Sleepless, NT 32-86>>>> Anacortes, WA>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>> >>>>> Has anyone figured out a method of cleaning the water and sludge from the fuel tank on NT-32? Single 200 gallon aluminum tank.>>>>> >>>>> Harry Hungate>>>>> Bessie NT 32-238>>>>> Now in Manistique, MI>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an >>>> email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> ------------------------------>>> >>> Message: 3>>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:58:53 -0400>>> From: Sam Collins scollins606@comcast.net>>> Subject: [Sentoa] Reply Re: Fuel tank cleanout?>>> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)">>> sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>>> Message-ID: 0AA960A2-5A1B-426D-AA6D-41433EF61FDC@comcast.net>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8>>> >>> Clean Fuel comes to the site recirculates the fuel thru filters and >>> polishes the tank. No cutting->>> >>> Sam Collins>>> Tug-A-Long>>> 1997 NT32 FB>>> Solomons, MD>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone>>> Sam Collins>>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 6:18 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>> >>>> Hi, Carmine, and many, many thanks for your response. This certainly sounds like a job for someone who specializes in this work. Cutting in to a fuel tank is not something that I would willingly undertake! But, I do not have any alternate ideas.>>>> >>>> All the best,>>>> >>>> Harry Hungate>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Carmine Petracca via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>> >>>>> Hi Harry,>>>>> >>>>> I hired a local company, which came highly recommended, to clean my 200gal. tank. After pumping the tank dry they cut an elongated hole in the rear of the tank and proceeded to vacuum it out. There was little debris and very little corrosion. If there had been much of either they would have cut another hole and repeated the process until they had done the whole tank. That wasn’t necessary in my case. They sealed the hole with a gasket and cover.>>>>> >>>>> I’m pretty handy and have done many projects on Sleepless including installing a new windlass, inverter, watermaker, bimini and electronics, but I think this is a job best left to someone who specializes in it. I was very glad that I had it done and felt better about knowing the condition of the tank. With the access opening already there, it would be an easier job in the future.>>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps.>>>>> >>>>> Carmine Petracca>>>>> Sleepless, NT 32-86>>>>> Anacortes, WA>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone figured out a method of cleaning the water and sludge from the fuel tank on NT-32? Single 200 gallon aluminum tank.>>>>>> >>>>>> Harry Hungate>>>>>> Bessie NT 32-238>>>>>> Now in Manistique, MI>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an >>>> email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> ------------------------------>>> >>> Message: 4>>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 20:07:05 -0400>>> From: stephen.h.hill@gmail.com>>> Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Reply Re: Fuel tank cleanout?>>> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)">>> sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>>> Message-ID: E3D57F37-2579-4B0A-9B01-2FE1A48813D2@gmail.com>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8>>> >>> Nordic Tug fuel tanks take fuel directly from the bottom of the tank and not through a pick up tube. If, when you go out on a rough day that stirs up the tank, and it does not result in sludge gathering in your Racor filter, then you have nothing to be concerned about. If there is a regular build up of sludge in your Racor, then it may well require some professional assistance. >>> >>> Best wishes>>> Stephen Hill>>> NT37-199>>> Tug’n>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone>>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Sam Collins via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>> >>>> Clean Fuel comes to the site recirculates the fuel thru filters and >>>> polishes the tank. No cutting->>>> >>>> Sam Collins>>>> Tug-A-Long>>>> 1997 NT32 FB>>>> Solomons, MD>>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone>>>> Sam Collins>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 6:18 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>> >>>>> Hi, Carmine, and many, many thanks for your response. This certainly sounds like a job for someone who specializes in this work. Cutting in to a fuel tank is not something that I would willingly undertake! But, I do not have any alternate ideas.>>>>> >>>>> All the best,>>>>> >>>>> Harry Hungate>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Carmine Petracca via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Harry,>>>>>> >>>>>> I hired a local company, which came highly recommended, to clean my 200gal. tank. After pumping the tank dry they cut an elongated hole in the rear of the tank and proceeded to vacuum it out. There was little debris and very little corrosion. If there had been much of either they would have cut another hole and repeated the process until they had done the whole tank. That wasn’t necessary in my case. They sealed the hole with a gasket and cover.>>>>>> >>>>>> I’m pretty handy and have done many projects on Sleepless including installing a new windlass, inverter, watermaker, bimini and electronics, but I think this is a job best left to someone who specializes in it. I was very glad that I had it done and felt better about knowing the condition of the tank. With the access opening already there, it would be an easier job in the future.>>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps.>>>>>> >>>>>> Carmine Petracca>>>>>> Sleepless, NT 32-86>>>>>> Anacortes, WA>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone figured out a method of cleaning the water and sludge from the fuel tank on NT-32? Single 200 gallon aluminum tank.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Harry Hungate>>>>>>> Bessie NT 32-238>>>>>>> Now in Manistique, MI>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an >>>> email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> ------------------------------>>> >>> Message: 5>>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:08:19 -0700>>> From: Paul Bulk crownprincenordic32@gmail.com>>> Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Reply Re: Fuel tank cleanout?>>> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)">>> sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>>> Message-ID: A6287BE6-BE5B-4763-9A1A-41505E4F4278@gmail.com>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8>>> >>> All good info. You can polish your fuel by bypassing the existing fuel filter and running it through a pump and filter system. Over the course of an hour or so you will completely filter all the fuel in your tank. If you can somehow agitate the contents of the tank while you polish the fuel you can remove almost all the contaminants. I haven’t done it but I have heard it isn’t too difficult. I also imagine this would be straightforward to set up. >>> >>> Paul Bulk>>> Crown Prince>>> Brentwood Bay, BC>>> 32-191>>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 17:07, Stephen via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>> >>>> Nordic Tug fuel tanks take fuel directly from the bottom of the tank and not through a pick up tube. If, when you go out on a rough day that stirs up the tank, and it does not result in sludge gathering in your Racor filter, then you have nothing to be concerned about. If there is a regular build up of sludge in your Racor, then it may well require some professional assistance. >>>> >>>> Best wishes>>>> Stephen Hill>>>> NT37-199>>>> Tug’n>>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Sam Collins via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>> >>>>> Clean Fuel comes to the site recirculates the fuel thru filters and >>>>> polishes the tank. No cutting->>>>> >>>>> Sam Collins>>>>> Tug-A-Long>>>>> 1997 NT32 FB>>>>> Solomons, MD>>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone>>>>> Sam Collins>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 6:18 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Carmine, and many, many thanks for your response. This certainly sounds like a job for someone who specializes in this work. Cutting in to a fuel tank is not something that I would willingly undertake! But, I do not have any alternate ideas.>>>>>> >>>>>> All the best,>>>>>> >>>>>> Harry Hungate>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Carmine Petracca via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Harry,>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hired a local company, which came highly recommended, to clean my 200gal. tank. After pumping the tank dry they cut an elongated hole in the rear of the tank and proceeded to vacuum it out. There was little debris and very little corrosion. If there had been much of either they would have cut another hole and repeated the process until they had done the whole tank. That wasn’t necessary in my case. They sealed the hole with a gasket and cover.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m pretty handy and have done many projects on Sleepless including installing a new windlass, inverter, watermaker, bimini and electronics, but I think this is a job best left to someone who specializes in it. I was very glad that I had it done and felt better about knowing the condition of the tank. With the access opening already there, it would be an easier job in the future.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carmine Petracca>>>>>>> Sleepless, NT 32-86>>>>>>> Anacortes, WA>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Harry Hungate via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone figured out a method of cleaning the water and sludge from the fuel tank on NT-32? Single 200 gallon aluminum tank.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Harry Hungate>>>>>>>> Bessie NT 32-238>>>>>>>> Now in Manistique, MI>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe >>>>>>>> send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>>> _______________________________________________>>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send >>>>> an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an >>>> email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> ------------------------------>>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer>>> >>> _______________________________________________>>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an >>> email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------>>> >>> End of Sentoa Digest, Vol 133, Issue 16>>> ***************************************>> _______________________________________________>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org>> _______________________________________________>> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>> To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org> _______________________________________________> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org_______________________________________________Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org