Re: Sentoa Digest, Vol 127, Issue 12
I definitely second the other comments that say this owner should do
whatever they want. Have you seen all the other postings on forums about
the scarcity of Nordic Tugs? We're all sitting on piles of money. Generator
or not the boat will sell. And probably for more than they bought it for.
I also considered removing the generator when I had a 32. And still think
about getting rid of it on my 37. My opinion is that a 5KVA generator on a
32 is a poor design decision. The only exception to this is if you're
running air conditioning.
The reason for this is that it's almost impossible to run the generator
under proper load. When I bought my 37 the generator needed a new exhaust
manifold (not a cheap repair). The reason for this was almost certainly
because it wasn't run under load. In order to run it under load I need to
turn on the water heater, cabin heater AND add a space heater. So basically
heating the San Juan Islands in the summer.
I'm not looking to troll here. I love my Nordic Tug, but I feel the concept
of a very expensive 5KVA genset will become outdated as solar, lithium and
advanced alternator technologies mature.
Louis Gordon
Dark Star
NT 37-81
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1. Re: Sentoa Digest, Vol 127, Issue 11 (Robert Claycomb)
2. Re: Northern Lights generator removal (gefuller5@comcast.net)
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And the comments keep coming.
Everyone who commented seems to be worried about the boats resale, not
about the issues they cause. I bought my boat without a generator and I
really doubt my resale is harmed vs what I paid .
I guess if I lived on the hook for weeks at a time, I might have a
different opinion.
I also think solar is just as efficient here in Southern California. You
will have the old thru hulls in place, so let the new owner in the future
add one.
I think you are making a better decision in removing it, since it is not
being used.
Now wether you pickle and store it or just sell is your dilemma.
Hmmm!
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- Re: Northern Lights generator removal (Fire Fighter)
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:45:34 +0000
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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Northern Lights generator removal
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I agree with the others who caution against removing a perfectly good
generator. I agree that removing it will probably have a negative effect on
both selling price (in the future) and marketability. Run it at least once
per month and ensure it is under a good load (say 75%) and get it up to
full temp, and continue with routine maintenance. I would also freshwater
flush it as often as possible after running.
JMHO.
Tom Easterbrook
formerly Pilitak N737-068
Nanaimo, BC
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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Northern Lights generator removal
on my 32 Sonia Lourdes my first Northern Lights generator frozw and a
wise mechanic who came to work on it put some liquid into it and started it
.
next thing,and within 2 minutes of starting it heard a gun shot from an
AR 47 rifle and ducked .
it turned out to be a round piece of metal the size of a quarter
shooting out of the generator on the side . so much for this one .
took it to my northern lights dealer in Miami (should have done this
first time ) and he installed a brand new one . The new one was great as
was the older one that i am told broke because salt came into the engine
and froze it .
i used the Generator every time i turned on the engine as i disposed of
the inverter refrigerator and got a cheaper $110.00 one from SEARS versus
over $1,000. from a marine dealer . Also my Ac as on all the time in
florida except jan thru april .sometimes.
the NL gen is an asset to the boat .
ffb
In a message dated 12/13/2021 12:57:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sentoa@lists.sentoa.org writes:
I second the motion to not remove the genset unless you plan to keep
your boat until you permanently end boating. We got a good deal on a 32
mostly because it did not have a genset. We have a small Honda E2000i
portable genset aboard which will run one a/c (but not both), but the noise
is distressing.
Harry Hungate
Bessie NT 32-238
On Dec 13, 2021, at 12:39 PM, steve countryman via Sentoa <
sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
I would think twice about removing the genset, if for no other reason
that doing so will, IMO, adversely affect the marketability and selling
price of the boat.
Removal of the genny will also limit YOUR flexibility if you change your
plans and decide to use the boat in a different way.
There is a large NT community in the PNW and it is rare to find one in
the 32’ and larger sizes without a genset.
The expense of removing the genny and subsequently replacing it with
another one will be cost prohibitive, even if you get a fair price for the
original generator one when you sell it.
The market for NTs is nationwide and while you may find no utility in
the genset, IMO, most prospective owners will want one, and not having one
will significantly reduce your prospective buyer pool.
Pickle the genset in place to protect and maintain it. Way out in the
distant future, the low hours on it will get you a higher selling price.
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 9:19 AM David Owen via Sentoa <
Group,
Greeting from So Cal.
WILSON, NT32-260 is being used to take 2-3 days trips across the Santa
Barbara Channel with almost daily harbor changes. This keeps my batteries
charged and hot water for showers. WILSON does not have, nor need an Air
Conditioner. I have no dreams or hopes of extended cruising (well-still
think about doing a season or two in the PNW but then I don’t have a boat
at home) and have not been using my generator enough to warrant the weight
and or maintenance expense. In fact, I make excuses to use it simply
because I have it.
It is very quiet, but I refuse to run it for less than 45 minutes and it
resents not being used. It is about 5 years old and only has 107 hours on
it, most of them from the prior owners. I have ran it enough to keep it
happy, but I did have the exhaust elbow plug up and it was replaced.
WILSON has very little AC demand – occasional espresso machine or microwave
use and the invertor is easy to switch off and on as needed. I just don’t
need the generator. It’s coming out. I may add solar, but I don’t really
even need that.
I have already removed all of the external bits and pieces, including
the beautiful sound shield case. I now have a gleaming white engine bolted
on that port engine room platform with nothing attached to it. Next step
is a bit more daunting. Has anybody either removed or installed a genset
in their 32? I would love a voice of experience telling me if I have to
remove the generator end to take it out or if it can be wiggled past the
main engine in once piece. How about the engine seawater intake and
strainer? Don’t know how involved removing the generator end is, but I
know that anything I do in the engine room will involve cursing and daily
aches.
I am leaning towards removing the gen end, it will certainly make the
removal lighter, but honestly the boat yoga thing is a counter-voice in my
head.
Any thoughts or guidance appreciated and welcome.
David
David W Owen
805-689-2955
“WILSON” Nordic Tug 32-260
Santa Barbara, CA
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