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Laura Larsen
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 4:12 PM

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga,
as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is
this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load
doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a
tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat
promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All
efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats
to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We
wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while
anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you
Frank and Laura Larsen
NT 37-167
Punta Gorda Isles, FL

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you Frank and Laura Larsen NT 37-167 Punta Gorda Isles, FL
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Gene Fuller
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 4:29 PM

Hi Frank and Laura,

We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI.

I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from
two lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each
leg has a spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common
ends at the chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain.

The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well
below the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses.

It sounds like your bridle is too short.

When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow
was closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many
years.

Gene Fuller

/Yorkshire Rose/

NT 37-136

Punta Gorda, FL

On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote:

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her
Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our
question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to
reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On
the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed(
became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle,
scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle
were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer
than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT
37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal
situations? Thank you
Frank and Laura Larsen
NT 37-167
Punta Gorda Isles, FL

Hi Frank and Laura, We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI. I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from two lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each leg has a spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common ends at the chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain. The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well below the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses. It sounds like your bridle is too short. When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow was closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many years. Gene Fuller /Yorkshire Rose/ NT 37-136 Punta Gorda, FL On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote: > Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her > Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our > question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to > reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On > the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( > became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, > scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle > were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer > than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT > 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal > situations? Thank you > Frank and Laura Larsen > NT 37-167 > Punta Gorda Isles, FL
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April DeGennaro
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 4:33 PM

It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe.
Thank you!
April DeGenaro
Ti Amo
NT 37-197
Chocowinity, NC

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Gene Fuller via Sentoa <
sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:

Hi Frank and Laura,

We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI.

I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from two
lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each leg has a
spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common ends at the
chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain.

The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well below
the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses.

It sounds like your bridle is too short.

When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow was
closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many years.

Gene Fuller

Yorkshire Rose

NT 37-136

Punta Gorda, FL
On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote:

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga,
as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is
this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load
doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a
tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat
promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All
efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats
to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We
wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while
anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you
Frank and Laura Larsen
NT 37-167
Punta Gorda Isles, FL


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It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe. Thank you! April DeGenaro Ti Amo NT 37-197 Chocowinity, NC On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Gene Fuller via Sentoa < sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: > Hi Frank and Laura, > > We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI. > > I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from two > lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each leg has a > spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common ends at the > chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain. > > The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well below > the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses. > > It sounds like your bridle is too short. > > When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow was > closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many years. > > Gene Fuller > > *Yorkshire Rose* > > NT 37-136 > > Punta Gorda, FL > On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote: > > Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, > as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is > this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load > doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a > tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat > promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All > efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats > to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We > wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while > anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you > Frank and Laura Larsen > NT 37-167 > Punta Gorda Isles, FL > > _______________________________________________ > Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org >
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Evan Effa
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 4:42 PM

Hi,

We have the extended bow pulpit which helps get the anchor rode away from the bow a bit.

I modified a Mantus bridle (shortening the arms) and added a heavy Shockle between the Mantus hook and the bridle.  This works very well providing good quiet shock absorption and keeps the rode away from the bow.

-Evan

NT 37-148
Tugaway
Victoria, BC

On Mar 18, 2024, at 09:12, Laura Larsen via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you
Frank and Laura Larsen
NT 37-167
Punta Gorda Isles, FL


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Hi, We have the extended bow pulpit which helps get the anchor rode away from the bow a bit. I modified a Mantus bridle (shortening the arms) and added a heavy Shockle between the Mantus hook and the bridle. This works very well providing good quiet shock absorption and keeps the rode away from the bow. -Evan NT 37-148 Tugaway Victoria, BC > On Mar 18, 2024, at 09:12, Laura Larsen via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: > > Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you > Frank and Laura Larsen > NT 37-167 > Punta Gorda Isles, FL > _______________________________________________ > Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org
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Evan Effa
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 4:52 PM

A few pics:

Low resolution due to server constraints…



-Evan

NT 37-148
TUGAWAY

On Mar 18, 2024, at 09:33, April DeGennaro via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:

It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe.
Thank you!
April DeGenaro
Ti Amo
NT 37-197
Chocowinity, NC

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Gene Fuller via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:

Hi Frank and Laura,

We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI.

I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from two lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each leg has a spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common ends at the chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain.

The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well below the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses.

It sounds like your bridle is too short.

When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow was closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many years.

Gene Fuller

Yorkshire Rose

NT 37-136

Punta Gorda, FL

On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote:

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you
Frank and Laura Larsen
NT 37-167
Punta Gorda Isles, FL


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A few pics: Low resolution due to server constraints…  -Evan NT 37-148 TUGAWAY > On Mar 18, 2024, at 09:33, April DeGennaro via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: > > It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe. > Thank you! > April DeGenaro > Ti Amo > NT 37-197 > Chocowinity, NC > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Gene Fuller via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org <mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>> wrote: >> Hi Frank and Laura, >> >> We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI. >> >> I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from two lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each leg has a spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common ends at the chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain. >> >> The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well below the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses. >> >> It sounds like your bridle is too short. >> >> When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow was closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many years. >> >> Gene Fuller >> >> Yorkshire Rose >> >> NT 37-136 >> >> Punta Gorda, FL >> >> On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote: >>> Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you >>> Frank and Laura Larsen >>> NT 37-167 >>> Punta Gorda Isles, FL >> _______________________________________________ >> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org <mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org <mailto:sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org> > _______________________________________________ > Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org
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Evan Effa
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 4:54 PM

Topsides view of bridle.

-Evan
NT 37-148
Tugaway

On Mar 18, 2024, at 09:33, April DeGennaro via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:

It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe.
Thank you!
April DeGenaro
Ti Amo
NT 37-197
Chocowinity, NC

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Gene Fuller via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:

Hi Frank and Laura,

We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI.

I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from two lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each leg has a spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common ends at the chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain.

The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well below the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses.

It sounds like your bridle is too short.

When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow was closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many years.

Gene Fuller

Yorkshire Rose

NT 37-136

Punta Gorda, FL

On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote:

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you
Frank and Laura Larsen
NT 37-167
Punta Gorda Isles, FL


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Topsides view of bridle.  -Evan NT 37-148 Tugaway > On Mar 18, 2024, at 09:33, April DeGennaro via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: > > It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe. > Thank you! > April DeGenaro > Ti Amo > NT 37-197 > Chocowinity, NC > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Gene Fuller via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org <mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>> wrote: >> Hi Frank and Laura, >> >> We are clearly neighbors since we also live in PGI. >> >> I am not sure what sort of bridle you are using. I made a bridle from two lengths of 3-strand nylon, with each leg about 15 feet long. Each leg has a spliced loop at one end to fit over the bow cleats. The common ends at the chain are shackled to a chain hook that connects to the chain. >> >> The bridle legs are long enough that the chain connection sinks well below the hull if the chain goes slack or reverses. >> >> It sounds like your bridle is too short. >> >> When we had sailboats the bridle legs could be shorter because the bow was closer to the water, but otherwise the same scheme was used for many years. >> >> Gene Fuller >> >> Yorkshire Rose >> >> NT 37-136 >> >> Punta Gorda, FL >> >> On 3/18/2024 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa wrote: >>> Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you >>> Frank and Laura Larsen >>> NT 37-167 >>> Punta Gorda Isles, FL >> _______________________________________________ >> Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org <mailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org <mailto:sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org> > _______________________________________________ > Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org
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sadler love
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 5:20 PM

On Mar 18, 2024, at 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:

Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you
Frank and Laura Larsen
NT 37-167
Punta Gorda Isles, FL


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I use this mooring pendant: https://www.westmarine.com/new-england-ropes-mooring-pendant-5-8inch-x-15--15500lb.-breaking-strength-8003634.html <https://www.westmarine.com/new-england-ropes-mooring-pendant-5-8inch-x-15--15500lb.-breaking-strength-8003634.html> and this chain hook: https://www.mantusmarine.com/m2-chain-hook/ <https://www.mantusmarine.com/m2-chain-hook/> and loop the loop end of the pendant over the Sampson post. Fast, easy, safe, and simple. Sadler Love NT 137 137-37 Egret Hilton Head Island, SC > On Mar 18, 2024, at 12:12 PM, Laura Larsen via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote: > > Hello All! We just purchased hull 167 of Nordic Tug 37. We named her Saga, as she is our continuing sea story. We like to anchor out. Our question is this; when anchoring, the anchor chain snubber bridle to reduce shock load doesn’t work as it did on our 5 previous boats. On the NT, we anchored in a tidal river, and when the tide changed( became wind over tide), the boat promptly “ran over” her bridle, scraping the chain along the hull. All efforts to shorten the bridle were in vain, as the length from the cleats to the chain is longer than the length of the freeboard on the bow. We wonder what other NT 37 owners do to properly reduce shock load while anchoring in tidal situations? Thank you > Frank and Laura Larsen > NT 37-167 > Punta Gorda Isles, FL > _______________________________________________ > Sentoa mailing list -- sentoa@lists.sentoa.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sentoa-leave@lists.sentoa.org
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Gene Fuller
Mon, Mar 18, 2024 11:36 PM

Here is a photo of the bridle in use. This is by far the most common
arrangement in this area. Nobody uses a single "snubber".

Gene Fuller

/Yorkshire Rose/

NT 37-136

Punta Gorda, FL

On 3/18/2024 12:33 PM, April DeGennaro via Sentoa wrote:

It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe.

Here is a photo of the bridle in use. This is by far the most common arrangement in this area. Nobody uses a single "snubber". Gene Fuller /Yorkshire Rose/ NT 37-136 Punta Gorda, FL On 3/18/2024 12:33 PM, April DeGennaro via Sentoa wrote: > It would be helpful to see images of the bridles you describe. >