Steelhead Marine WD1000 crane
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
We have a a fold down eyelet screwed to the boat deck & have the crane hook attached to that & cinched down.
I added a rubber loop to take up some of the tension in the system but the crane arm stays in place nicely.
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
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On Jun 13, 2024, at 04:36, Jonathan Handelman via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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You could install an eyelet to the sundeck that you can connect your davit
cable to to prevent it from swinging side to side.
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Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane
arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it
from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the
stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking
on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks
sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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Nordic Tugs, Inc. & Ocean Sport Boats
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Could you simply drill through and use a pin?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 6:34 AM Dave Allen via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
wrote:
You could install an eyelet to the sundeck that you can connect your davit
cable to to prevent it from swinging side to side.
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/browse?terms=pad%20eyes&rterms=pad%20eye
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 4:36 AM Jonathan Handelman via Sentoa <
sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane
arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it
from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the
stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking
on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks
sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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I have a Steelhead 600#. It has a deck fitting to hold it in place while stowed. But it can also move side to side a bit. So I tie a line from the section of railing between the roof of the PH and first stantion, then wrap it around the end of the Steelhead, and the. Through the deck tie down and tie the line back on itself. It does not move at all tied this way. Note, the dinghy tie down is through bolted. Best wishes
Stephen Hill
Tug’n
NT37-199
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On Jun 13, 2024, at 9:33 AM, Dave Allen via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
You could install an eyelet to the sundeck that you can connect your davit cable to to prevent it from swinging side to side.
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/browse?terms=pad%20eyes&rterms=pad%20eye
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 4:36 AM Jonathan Handelman via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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Direct: 360.757.8833
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I am interested in how the installation process went and an idea of cost
for installing a WD1000 crane on a NT37, my current set up uses the the
mast and boom with various pulleys which the previous owner had, and it's a
complete faff to launch and recover the tender. Some pictures of an
installed crane would be very useful for me. I'm in the UK, but any info
would be appreciated. Thanks all.
Steve Day
SINBAD NT37-192
Harwich, UK
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 13:42, Evan Effa via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
wrote:
We have a a fold down eyelet screwed to the boat deck & have the crane
hook attached to that & cinched down.
I added a rubber loop to take up some of the tension in the system but the
crane arm stays in place nicely.
[image: image0.jpeg]
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
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On Jun 13, 2024, at 04:36, Jonathan Handelman via Sentoa <
sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane
arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it
from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the
stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking
on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks
sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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Hi Steve,
We installed a hydraulic foot pump Weaver davit on the swim platform making launching & retrieving the dinghy a piece of cake; much quicker, safer & a lot better center of gravity for the boat underway.
We still have the crane but rarely use it. We would never willingly go back to storing the dinghy up top.
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
Victoria, BC
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On Jun 13, 2024, at 09:20, Steve Day via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
I am interested in how the installation process went and an idea of cost for installing a WD1000 crane on a NT37, my current set up uses the the mast and boom with various pulleys which the previous owner had, and it's a complete faff to launch and recover the tender. Some pictures of an installed crane would be very useful for me. I'm in the UK, but any info would be appreciated. Thanks all.
Steve Day
SINBAD NT37-192
Harwich, UK
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 13:42, Evan Effa via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
We have a a fold down eyelet screwed to the boat deck & have the crane hook attached to that & cinched down.
I added a rubber loop to take up some of the tension in the system but the crane arm stays in place nicely.<image0.jpeg>
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
Sent from my iPhone
(please excuse the typos...)
On Jun 13, 2024, at 04:36, Jonathan Handelman via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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I agree with Evan. We used a swim grid mounted davit (Seawise) and were very pleased with how it performed. They have manual and electric models. We could launch or retrieve the dinghy in about 3 minutes in almost any sea state (big waves coming from astern would probably be a problem) and it did not cause any "real" concerns with access or use of the swim grid. The only drawback would be that dock access from the swim grid if tied port side would be impractical. We almost never docked on the port side due to prop walk. Starboard preferred.
Personally, I would try to avoid adding holes to the top deck. Future leaks are very probable and/or regular maintenance (replacement) of the sealant is required. Previous owners had mounted the dinghy on the top deck and used manual winch powered mast. When we purchased, there was some water penetration into the core of the top deck, costing several thousand dollars to repair.
Hope this comment helps,
Tom
formerly Pilitak NT 37-068
Nanaimo, BC
From: Evan Effa via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org
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Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Steelhead Marine WD1000 crane
Hi Steve,
We installed a hydraulic foot pump Weaver davit on the swim platform making launching & retrieving the dinghy a piece of cake; much quicker, safer & a lot better center of gravity for the boat underway.
We still have the crane but rarely use it. We would never willingly go back to storing the dinghy up top.
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
Victoria, BC
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(please excuse the typos...)
On Jun 13, 2024, at 09:20, Steve Day via Sentoa sentoa@lists.sentoa.org wrote:
I am interested in how the installation process went and an idea of cost for installing a WD1000 crane on a NT37, my current set up uses the the mast and boom with various pulleys which the previous owner had, and it's a complete faff to launch and recover the tender. Some pictures of an installed crane would be very useful for me. I'm in the UK, but any info would be appreciated. Thanks all.
Steve Day
SINBAD NT37-192
Harwich, UK
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 13:42, Evan Effa via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.orgmailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
We have a a fold down eyelet screwed to the boat deck & have the crane hook attached to that & cinched down.
I added a rubber loop to take up some of the tension in the system but the crane arm stays in place nicely.
<image0.jpeg>
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
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(please excuse the typos...)
On Jun 13, 2024, at 04:36, Jonathan Handelman via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.orgmailto:sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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So, we love storing our Walker Bay 310 Consul Dinghy with 20HP Tohatsu up top. Using the Steelhead works very well for us. The chocks and tie downs make it extremely secure and we never have to worry about it no matter what the sea conditions are.
Also, I much prefer the visibility looking out the stern windows with no dinghy mounted at the transom.
Finally, I prefer the swim platform to be clear. We anchor 90% of the time and sometimes don’t launch the dinghy. We much prefer the view without the dinghy in the way.
Best wishes
Stephen Hill
NT37-199
Tug’n
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On Jun 14, 2024, at 4:05 PM, Fire Fighter via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
I agree with Evan. We used a swim grid mounted davit (Seawise) and were very pleased with how it performed. They have manual and electric models. We could launch or retrieve the dinghy in about 3 minutes in almost any sea state (big waves coming from astern would probably be a problem) and it did not cause any "real" concerns with access or use of the swim grid. The only drawback would be that dock access from the swim grid if tied port side would be impractical. We almost never docked on the port side due to prop walk. Starboard preferred.
Personally, I would try to avoid adding holes to the top deck. Future leaks are very probable and/or regular maintenance (replacement) of the sealant is required. Previous owners had mounted the dinghy on the top deck and used manual winch powered mast. When we purchased, there was some water penetration into the core of the top deck, costing several thousand dollars to repair.
Hope this comment helps,
Tom
formerly Pilitak NT 37-068
Nanaimo, BC
From: Evan Effa via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>
Sent: June 13, 2024 9:51 AM
To: South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA) <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org>
Cc: Evan Effa <eheffa@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sentoa] Re: Steelhead Marine WD1000 craneHi Steve,
We installed a hydraulic foot pump Weaver davit on the swim platform making launching & retrieving the dinghy a piece of cake; much quicker, safer & a lot better center of gravity for the boat underway.
We still have the crane but rarely use it. We would never willingly go back to storing the dinghy up top.
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
Victoria, BC
Sent from my iPhone
(please excuse the typos...)
On Jun 13, 2024, at 09:20, Steve Day via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
I am interested in how the installation process went and an idea of cost for installing a WD1000 crane on a NT37, my current set up uses the the mast and boom with various pulleys which the previous owner had, and it's a complete faff to launch and recover the tender. Some pictures of an installed crane would be very useful for me. I'm in the UK, but any info would be appreciated. Thanks all.
Steve Day
SINBAD NT37-192
Harwich, UK
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 13:42, Evan Effa via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
We have a a fold down eyelet screwed to the boat deck & have the crane hook attached to that & cinched down.
I added a rubber loop to take up some of the tension in the system but the crane arm stays in place nicely.<image0.jpeg>
-evan
TUGAWAY
NT37-148
Sent from my iPhone
(please excuse the typos...)
On Jun 13, 2024, at 04:36, Jonathan Handelman via Sentoa <sentoa@lists.sentoa.org> wrote:
Has anyone come up with an elegant solution for how to prevent the crane arm on the upper deck from swinging laterally? Mine has no pin to keep it from swinging port and starboard. The ones I have seen are roped to the stanchions to keep them still. That's what I do but I don't like it yanking on the stanchions because it seems like a recipe for leaks. Also it looks sloppy.
-Jonathan Handelman
Cyclops
Freeport, Maine
NT-37 #138
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As so often the case this thread has turned to a different subject.
As for the original request, I opt for "sloppy". I tie the crane to the
closest stanchion. Nothing moves at all, even in very rough conditions.
There is little real force, and there is no indication of any problem
with the stanchion base.
To date, no one has looked and then ridiculed me for being "sloppy".
Returning to the diverted topic, when we bought our tug a few years ago
it came with Weaver davits. I immediately removed them (still in my
garage) and added a crane. We love the crane.
I consider the Weaver davits the absolutely worst possible choice for a
dinghy. The problem is mainly related to dealing with the motor, fuel
tank, anchor, etc, when the dinghy is upended. The more recent
Seawise-type hoist is much better, but it still blocks the swim platform.
Gene Fuller
/Yorkshire Rose/
NT 37-136
Punta Gorda, FL